2 Faces of the Coin, I am the metal in between...
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2 Faces of the Coin, I am the metal in between...
To protect the newly-established Bolshevik government from counterrevolutionaries and other political opponents, the Bolsheviks created a secret police, the Cheka, in December 1917.
The Bolsheviks had planned to hold a trial for the former Tsar, but in July 1918, when the White Army was advancing on Yekaterinburg where the former royal family was being held, Sverdlov acceded to the request of the local Soviet to execute the Tsar right away, rather than having him freed by the Whites. The Tsar and the rest of his immediate family were executed, though whether this was a decision of the central government or the local Soviet remains the subject of historical dispute. Lenin was informed about the execution only after it had taken place, but did not criticize it. Censorship was quickly imposed, and it was up to the Cheka to confiscate the literature of dissident workers: “[On] November 17 the Central Executive Committee passed a decree giving the Bolsheviks control over all newsprint and wide powers of closing down newspapers critical of the regime…” Workers were re-forming independent soviets; the Cheka broke them up. Independent newspapers criticized Lenin’s government; the Cheka closed them down, until the Bolshevik-controlled Pravda and Izvestia had a monopoly on the supply of news. Shapiro asserts that The refusal to come to terms with the socialists and the dispersal of the Constituent assembly led to the logical result that revolutionary terror would now be directed not only against traditional enemies, such as the bourgeoisie or right-wing opponents, but against anyone, be he socialist, worker or peasant, who opposed Bolshevik rule.
The Bolsheviks had planned to hold a trial for the former Tsar, but in July 1918, when the White Army was advancing on Yekaterinburg where the former royal family was being held, Sverdlov acceded to the request of the local Soviet to execute the Tsar right away, rather than having him freed by the Whites. The Tsar and the rest of his immediate family were executed, though whether this was a decision of the central government or the local Soviet remains the subject of historical dispute. Lenin was informed about the execution only after it had taken place, but did not criticize it. Censorship was quickly imposed, and it was up to the Cheka to confiscate the literature of dissident workers: “[On] November 17 the Central Executive Committee passed a decree giving the Bolsheviks control over all newsprint and wide powers of closing down newspapers critical of the regime…” Workers were re-forming independent soviets; the Cheka broke them up. Independent newspapers criticized Lenin’s government; the Cheka closed them down, until the Bolshevik-controlled Pravda and Izvestia had a monopoly on the supply of news. Shapiro asserts that The refusal to come to terms with the socialists and the dispersal of the Constituent assembly led to the logical result that revolutionary terror would now be directed not only against traditional enemies, such as the bourgeoisie or right-wing opponents, but against anyone, be he socialist, worker or peasant, who opposed Bolshevik rule.
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lolwut?
Whats all this talk about Bolsheviks?
But this intrigues me, I love Russian history.
Who are you?
Whats all this talk about Bolsheviks?
But this intrigues me, I love Russian history.
Who are you?
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I am the metal in between the 2 faces of the coin.
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Im not getting the reference.
I look at your profile info and IP and etc, nothing is Checking out.
I catch the Demosthenes reference, which is a reference to Ender's Game, which was used as a reference as a politician in the Greek-times. I know all about him. You're not fooling anyone. In the back of my mind, Im thinking "dont bother, its just a bot", but I also have the feeling that you're not.
Just tell me who you are and stop speaking in ciphers.
Axi, can you look at his profile, inside the admin panel, and tell me if anything catches your attention?
I look at your profile info and IP and etc, nothing is Checking out.
I catch the Demosthenes reference, which is a reference to Ender's Game, which was used as a reference as a politician in the Greek-times. I know all about him. You're not fooling anyone. In the back of my mind, Im thinking "dont bother, its just a bot", but I also have the feeling that you're not.
Just tell me who you are and stop speaking in ciphers.
Axi, can you look at his profile, inside the admin panel, and tell me if anything catches your attention?
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I was not aware of this reference to this 'Ender's Game' you mention, but I was aware of the politician from Greek times. You're pretty smart. I like you.
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Lots of people like me, its smart you went with their decision.
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I was not going along with the others, but merely following my own intuition. Its been known to get me out of jams before, many a time.
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Demosthenes wrote:but merely following my own intuition. Its been known to get me out of jams before, many a time.
Then we're more alike than I thought.
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Then since we have a lot in common, maybe you are one of the sides on the coin I speak of.
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Hahaha, I set you up perfectly. Dumb-ass.
I never said we had a lot in common, just that one trait. You just told me we had a lot in common, so you're someone I know, and knew well.....way to let that slip up, tard.
People just cant realize that they can't get anything past my analytical mind.
I never said we had a lot in common, just that one trait. You just told me we had a lot in common, so you're someone I know, and knew well.....way to let that slip up, tard.
People just cant realize that they can't get anything past my analytical mind.
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With the defeat of the revolution in mid-1907 and the adoption of a new, highly restrictive election law, the Bolsheviks began debating whether to boycott the new parliament known as the Third Duma. Lenin and his supporters Grigory Zinoviev and Lev Kamenev argued for participating in the Duma while Lenin's deputy philosopher Alexander Bogdanov, Anatoly Lunacharsky, Mikhail Pokrovsky and others argued that the social democratic faction in the Duma should be recalled. The latter became known as recallists ("otzovists" in Russian). A smaller group within the Bolshevik faction demanded that the RSDLP central committee should give its sometimes unruly Duma faction an ultimatum, demanding complete subordination to all party decisions. This group became known as "ultimatists" and was generally allied with the recallists.
With a majority of Bolshevik leaders either supporting Bogdanov or undecided by mid-1908 when the differences became irreconcilable, Lenin concentrated on undermining Bogdanov's reputation as a philosopher. In 1909 he published a scathing book of criticism entitled Materialism and Empiriocriticism (1909), assaulting Bogdanov's position and accusing him of philosophical idealism. In June 1909, Bogdanov was defeated at a Bolshevik mini-conference in Paris organized by the editorial board of the Bolshevik magazine Proletary and expelled from the Bolshevik faction
With a majority of Bolshevik leaders either supporting Bogdanov or undecided by mid-1908 when the differences became irreconcilable, Lenin concentrated on undermining Bogdanov's reputation as a philosopher. In 1909 he published a scathing book of criticism entitled Materialism and Empiriocriticism (1909), assaulting Bogdanov's position and accusing him of philosophical idealism. In June 1909, Bogdanov was defeated at a Bolshevik mini-conference in Paris organized by the editorial board of the Bolshevik magazine Proletary and expelled from the Bolshevik faction
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I dont have time for this right now. My boss' needs my help at work, so I have to jet.
Axi, or anyone, really, just try to find out more about the topic I talked about in that one forum.
Axi, or anyone, really, just try to find out more about the topic I talked about in that one forum.
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What's all tis about Russian history, now? Who are you, literally speaking, Demosthenes?
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Haha, Im so blind.
I know who it is, I mean, shit, hahahaha.
Its been a lot of heat, but I know now !
I know who it is, I mean, shit, hahahaha.
Its been a lot of heat, but I know now !
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OK, fine, I dont know who you are. But get back on here and tell me. Or talk more. Either one, since you're not a bot, I really dont care who you are...
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All significant truths are private truths. As they become public they cease to become truths; they become facts, or at best, part of the public character; or at worst, catchwords.
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Good to see you're back, Demosthenes. I was missing your internal and external logic. Its excrutiatingly delicious. What do you have for me today? Besides, a T.S. Elliot quote.
You've got to be someone I know, or else you wouldnt have known TS is my favorite poet.
Or this is just getting too weird.
You've got to be someone I know, or else you wouldnt have known TS is my favorite poet.
Or this is just getting too weird.
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This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.
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Demosthenes wrote:This is the way the world ends, not with a bang, but a whimper.
Best. Quote. EVAR.
'nuff said.
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Snaggle wrote:
'nuff said.
Then I will take my absence of this domain. For the time being.
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Later, Demos.
You were good for the short while we had you.
You were good for the short while we had you.
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Don't leave, Demos. Tell us more; I'm intrigued.
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Ill doubt he/she'll leave...just stop posting until something makes him/her want to post again.
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I sent everyone on my friends list a message saying that America would turn into Communist Russia now that Obama's President yesterday. 1 person replied back and removed me. It was funneh. :-)
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Its more of a socialist government.
The idea of socialism and communism or awesome great, but would never work, with how humans naturally are.
The idea of socialism and communism or awesome great, but would never work, with how humans naturally are.
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